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Old 10-31-2007, 02:06 PM
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Default Re: FTP $750K : M=60 : KK OOP facing turn shove rr on scary board

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Which is why I said "Obviously there are exceptions...", however, in this particular hand, it's not the exception and you do NOT want to go broke here.

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The rule with AA is that "if you limp with aces, you never go broke with aces". Obviously there are exceptions, but that's the rule (flop a set and go broke, have a read on some jackass but he gets lucky, etc).

Why should it be any different with KK?

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This is incorrect. I believe it comes from Cloutier/McEvoy, which is pretty much all misinformation.

If you limp AA/KK, of course you sometimes go broke with it. There are some situations where you can get away from it. You don't automatically go allin with one pair in a limped pot, but of course you sometimes go broke or double up with it.

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IMO that rule is incorrect. First of all, the money is shallow by cash game standards. A big pair plays about the same as TPTK or bottom two pair. You should sometimes be willing to go allin with those hands in a limped pot. Also, when you limp KK and don't get a reraise, your hand is well disguised.
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