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We must have been playing the same tournament. This is the new look in Razz from the NLHE refugees: Sammy Farha Razz. And they are starting to hit the cashgames. ATsmallC - see if they win. Any four cards under ten, they will not fold. Any four cards under 8, they jam the pot every street if they can.Same with any three wheels - all the way to the river. They don't care if they lose and they are winning a disturbing number of times.

IF you get a good seat with cards that hold up, you can wait them out, because 90% bust out in the first 90 minutes. Later in the trny they settle down a little.

It's power turbo Razz. "Turbo" Razz..an oxymoron.

I'm at a complete loss when there are more then two of them at a table.



Play the $10 or higher.

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Do you know the saying "whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger"? Well these maniacs operate off the same theory. For example if you were in a STT with 3 maniacs like this and they were jamming every pot and you were waiting for premium hands to get involved with, what would the table look like after a couple of the maniacs flamed out? If you were catching good starting hands you'd probably have won a decent share, but if not then with a starting stack of N chips, we'd see (with the maniacs denoted by "M"):

M #1: busto
M #2: busto
M #3: 3N
PRAX: N
TAG1: N
TAG2: N
TAG3: N
TAG4: N

I think it's pretty apparent how this is not to your advantage, especially once the limits go up and your starting stack keeps getting shorter and shorter, giving you less chance to obsorb the inevitable swings.