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Old 10-30-2007, 12:40 PM
fishyak fishyak is offline
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Default Re: metagame BET/CALL (payoff)

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full 10. Villain is the indian doc regular at the borg 10, for those who play there. he never bluffs big streets...

but i feel i should payoff anyway for metagame.

anyone disagree?

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SHHE drills it into us - don't fold good pots for one bet. But since you raised the "metagame" issue - Let's question our dogma.

1) We are up against a KNOWN opponent.
2) ALL our experience says he's got it.

What good is experience and reads if we don't use them to go against dogma? I would be particularly prone to fold late in a session. There is no metagame if you are leaving the table shortly.

And even the possibility of people taking shots at you later is something that is equivocal, it can go against you, or you can use it in your favor, too. So I do not see that element as a big issue. The big issue remains more basic, are you sure you are behind? If you are SURE, fold.

I made one of these "sure" folds last week holding a set of Aces when I got bet into as a 4th club hit the board. While I didn't see the card my Villian later admitted the obvious, the only reason he was staying in the hand was he had the K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] on board already, mine were both red.) and he hit what he was hoping for. I KNEW it. I folded.
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