[Taso]

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if i may be so bold to try to mediate the discussion
between Taso and kerowo...

I think that kerowo's position was that "an addiction
is much more than just a craving for a substance.
the addict does not feel 'normal' without ingesting
this substance. therefore, the 'addiction' becomes
a physical need, with the discomfort level from denial
being as strong as hunger or thirst."

Taso was thinking that "addiction means that one
cannot stop without outside forces." Since imbibing
cigarettes takes an active role on the individual,
being able to quit should merely be a decision.
Maybe a difficult one, but an act of will nonetheless.

kerowo's response is that Taso's position is
too strict. addiction can be less than that. the
incessant craving should be enough to qualify.

am i right, guys?

And i would also agree that anyone who SAYS they want
to do something and cannot, like quit smoking, or
lose weight, YES, DEFINITELY, they are weak-minded.
( this doesn't mean that they should all be rounded
up and shot, however. )

Maybe the decision is more difficult than what they
bargained for. This merely means they may have to
take more drastic measures, like seeking help.

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I think you have his last response backwards. He felt that addiction can MORE than what I said, but other than that, I guess you basically have it summed up, in a summation sense.

I still don't see how I am wrong though. People quit all the time. If it's not will power that makes it so they can do it, what is it?