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Old 10-29-2007, 06:42 PM
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Default Re: Insane HH from Niagara 10k involving THE Vanessa Rousso (and Shani

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the verdict seems to be that raising w/ 74 utg 400 bb deep has negative implied odds. the only argument against that so far is that raising in that spot w/ 74 can benefit your meta game. but isn't it hard to benefit the meta if you don't go to a showdown? can doing something "deceptive" without anybody knowing what you're doing actually benefit meta on a hand for hand basis? (obviously someone will catch on that you're playing loose UTG if you raise 25% of your hands)

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thats actually a very good point... most people like the 74s raise here on the basis of adding deception into their game but as we've seen, the negative implied odds is probably so significant as to completely diminish the benefits of widening your range.

When the stacks get really deep, keeping your range as wide as possible is very important, but avoiding reverse implied odds situations is also very important. Thus, the solid advice from ansky and others to play hands like 98s and nut hands like pocket pairs (careful with the low ones 400bbs deep) and suited aces in order to keep deception in your pf game while limiting reverse implied odds.
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