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Old 10-29-2007, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: 25 NL: 3-handed aggressive game

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Thanks, everyone.

One thing is bothering me, though: Doesn't raising the flop allow villain to play perfectly? He's not getting bluffed off a pair and he's giving up with overcards so I figured at the time I'd flat call two streets instead of raising flop and putting in essentially the same amount of money. Sure, I don't protect my hand and I'm playing it passively, but is it still not worth it when villain occasionally double barrels?

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It's pretty much the same reason you raise very wet flops when you've got top set. If he's betting as a bluff you're unlikely to get any more value out of him. Why then give him the chance to catch up by hitting the overcards?

I'd say that if he bets the turn it's more likely that he either had a hand on the flop or caught top pair on the turn so you're likely behind when calling the turn so there's no value in seeing that street.

This is a position when you don't have strong enough cards to continue when an overcard hits on the turn so giving him a free look is too risky. Don't get greedy and don't give him a chance to hit. So raise the flop.

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Raising the flop is bad at 25nl. Your opponents play badly and predictably, so we are much less likely to make a mistake later on in the hand than our opponent is.

When he donks the flop we are easily ahead enough to make the call. The turn is more iffy but if villain is aggessive the call is fine, especially 3handed (note though that opponents at unl are not as likely to adjust aggression for 3handed as they should).

Calling the flop induces opponent from making a mistake, whereas raising the flop is a move designed to prevent us from making a bigger mistake down the road. Villain will almost always play perfectly on this flop when we raise, whereas smoothcalling allows him to continue bluffing or betting a worse hand, or potentially he'll c/c river with 54 or 44.

I like OP's line if villain is aggressive. Turn call is iffy for the stakes b/c they're rarely betting so big 2x with a worse hand, but with our flushdraw to go with the pair it's not bad.

I think this hand becomes more interesting if villain checks to you on turn. Do we bet or check behind? I often opt to check behind because I don't think they fold 66 here often enough to make it a profitable spot to bet, and it would really suck to get c/r here.
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