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Old 10-27-2007, 09:51 PM
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Default Re: TT vs. WhoooooohKid

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A couple points:

1. We are not too deep to be shoving. Effective stacks are 21 BBs.

2. Agree that folding is out of the question.

3. Agree with apestyles that shoving is probably slightly +cEV.

But, that still leaves the question whether calling is more +EV. Just because one option is good doesn't mean others aren't better. I don't know the answer, by the way, but Bakes is good and has position and has a real hand, so I can't imagine playing OOP with TT is very good here.

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I still think that shoving is slightly -Cev. I think its insane to expect UTG to call with 88 and AQo. Of course if they are open raising with baltostar's relatively loose suggestions, then they must call with AQo, but I highly doubt this is the case in this spot, given the description of the player.
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