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Old 10-27-2007, 01:24 PM
pzhon pzhon is offline
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Default Re: Not convinced KK all-in preflop up to 100BB is good idea (at $0.50

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Hand 1: Hero raises to $1,187 and is All-In
Hand 2: Hero raises to $2,297.50 and is All-In
Hand 4: Hero raises to $1,000 and is All-In
Hand 6: Hero raises to $778 and is All-In
Hand 8: Hero raises to $211 and is All-In


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5 out of 8 of your hands involved pushing all-in with KK. So far, people have posted 16 hands as evidence, and 12 of those involved pushing with KK. Again, hands where you push for all of your chips with KK don't say much about the decision of whether to call when someone sets you in. The relevant hands are 3, 5, and 7.

Hand 3 involved a battle between the button and SB.
Hand 5 involved a battle between the button and CO.
Hand 7 involved a push by a short stack with 33 BB.

I never said it was a good idea to fold KK in those situations, "An open raise on the button represents much less strength than a raise from UTG. This means it takes much more room to figure out that KK is behind when there is an open-raise from late position than when there is a raise from early position." Further, I pointed out that raises and reraises are done with much weaker hands in aggressive higher stakes games (like NL $1k) than they are in the relatively passive NL $100 games. "When you are playing for pennies (or the smallest live game available), the players are very likely to be overplaying a weaker hand because they think TT is a monster. When you are playing in a very aggressive game, the raises mean less, the 3-bets mean less, etc. There is a small window in which the players are rarely going to push with QQ or AK, and in this range, calling all-in with KK is often -EV."
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