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Old 10-26-2007, 07:07 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: awkward preflop spot 5/10

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isn't shoving much better than calling?

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what the hell is going to call a 200bb shove that we are beating? Folding is better than shoving imo - but I still think its +EV to call. BTN is known to be 3-betting a wide range, and I think we have be thrilled to stack off w/ the fish in the BB here.

I dunno though - maybe folding is better. That just seems so painful.

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yes, but if you call $800, you're going to fold for $1200 more? because i think AK shoves if button has it.

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Given the action, I'd be pretty shocked for BTN to shove AK here actually. Wouldn't you fold AK if you were in BTN's shoes w/ the action ahead of you?

Edit - BTN's not calling a shove for 200bbs w/ JJ, and probably not AK either.

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But, if you're only calling AA and KK to a shove, then doesn't shoving AK becomes +EV?

definitely a tough spot though.

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No because our range for cold calling the donks push pre is QQ+, AK, with QQ and AK heavily discounted.
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