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when do you ever face overbets?? facing pot odds 7:6???
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I've had it happen many times, and many people have posted about it. Look up "move of honor." See
this thread,
this thread,
this thread,
this thread, etc.
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OPs point was to fold KK as a default
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He said it looks like KK loses money when it gets all-in preflop with stacks over about 60 BB. That is very, very different from saying to fold it, for reasons I have already pointed out.
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a low stakes player WILL NOT be able to seperate the spots where to fold KK from the ones where he shouldn't
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Low stakes players aren't allowed to be thinking players? It looks like many are trying. You better go tell them to stop.
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meh, this is a scenario where having info may be worse than having none. there have been some threads in msnl/hsnl where the consensus was to fold kk pf, but they involved deep stacks and/or pristine reads/history.