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Old 10-26-2007, 06:56 PM
pzhon pzhon is offline
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Default Re: Not convinced KK all-in preflop up to 100BB is good idea (at $0.50

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so now you know why you never fold KK to a push. there is so much dead money in the pot that he needs only a worse hand occasionally...


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This is wrong. See the Farha versus Greenstein hand. Farha had about $12,500 in the pot which he followed with about $178,000 more. See the many threads discussing 4-bet shoves, or even earlier pushes.

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besides: if you fold everything to a push other than aces, there will be people pushing into you with loads of crap... and you will lose A LOT of money.

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That is clearly wrong, as I pointed out before on this thread. In all of the situations where I might fold KK preflop, AA makes up a significant portion of my range, so trying to bluff me is an expensive mistake against my range.

It really seems you are moving the discussion backwards. You aren't bothering to avoid making statements that have already been refuted. You aren't even bothering to write coherently. Responding to you looks like a waste of time.
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