[jakrpanda]

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Check/call is the worst possible line on the river.

I like a value bet of around 60% pot, and crying call if he shoves.

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I think you would get more folds from villain using a shove on the river - hero has around 60BB behind and the pot is at 75+BB and villain would be wondering why we didn't put it all in ("maybe my hand _is_ good")

That is, if you plan on calling a raise anyway and putting it all-in, why not push and get some possible better hands to fold?

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lol at getting a better hand to fold. if we shove its for value only. in the moment i probably just shove but I think villian folds hands to a shove that he calls w/ to a bet like $35 or so, so i like bet small and crying call if he shoves.

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That's a benefit of the shove, not the reason. I was saying that in response to the check/call option and you could get an over set or a straight to fold on this obviously scary board. So sucket trebeck.