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Old 10-26-2007, 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Check behind turn?

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I like your play on all streets here. (Ok, preflop is little thin)

For those saying bet/fold turn, what range are you giving villain to CR turn? We have 5 outs a significant portion of the time and we're getting 9.25:1, with the opportunity to get in two bets pretty much always on the river if we improve. Close to a call and fold river UI no? Or do we think villain has KQ or a set a lot?

Also, a hypothetical:

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.5SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
SB bets, <font color="#cc0000">Hero ???</font>

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call


Board: 5d Qs 7h Ks Ac
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 29.167% 29.17% 00.00% 21 0.00 { Qd9d }
Hand 1: 70.833% 70.83% 00.00% 51 0.00 { 88+, ATs+, KTs+, QJs, AJo+, KQo }

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a) His range isnt that tight

b) Discount Qx and KK+ as villain will 3-bet these on the flop with non-zero probability

c) Discount lower pp's as it isnt everyone who will turn these hands into a bluff.


The decision on the river is much closer than suggested by that stove. You are basically hoping he turns lower pp's into a bluff which I dont see happeing very often. (But i dont play that game)
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