[Packard]

I have tried Hot Rox and Hot Rox Extreme. Gone through 2 bottles of each all at seperate times.

I think they are ok products. I got a little more energy from them but they did not live up to the hype and extreme fat burning results that are reported on the Biotest T-Nation site.

I have decided to use them preworkout as well as other ephedra free fat burners. I feel that they are best for the preworkout energy effects rather than just taking them throughout the day for fat burning purposes.

I am going to try BSN Atro-Plex next as a daytime fat burner. There are some really strong reviews from bodybuilding.com there. I have been impressed by BSN's Thermonex, NO Xplode and BSN protein in general.

I do like Biotest Spike for pre workout energy. I think that and Surge are the best Biotest products. I think that they hype and push their products too much although T-Nation has outstanding training/nutrition articles.