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Old 10-25-2007, 06:26 PM
crovax4444 crovax4444 is offline
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Default Re: Get your n00b out, uNL--Volume 2

Clarifying my earlier question about dealing with mini-bets, I'll post an example and ask whether you guys feel just calling the mini-bet vs raising is appropriate:

UTG: $7
Hero (BTN): $16.40
SB: $8.35
BB: $1.75

Pre-Flop: 2 2 dealt to Hero (BTN)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $0.20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $0.75</font>

Now what if UTG only had $3 stacks? What if there was another player left to act, or another player that has already acted?

I suppose my question is what default line does one use to play against minibets vs shortstacks when your hand can't get implied odds?

Crovax

<font color="green">It's kind of a convoluted question again. But here goes. First, you can fold small pp's you know. Yup, you can.

Next, with the $7 stack I am calling 22 all day and playing no set no bet at NL10. With a $3 stack the only one in before me, I'd consider folding 22 pf.

There's some controversy as to what the exact stack sizes you should be looking at with the small pp's. Some people say 7:1 which is wrong and too low. Dbitel "proved" it should be 17:1, which seems a tad high to me. 15:1 or so is maybe a decent stack to bet ratio estimate. So, you have to call $0.20 vs a $3 stack which is right at 15:1. It's probably OK with the potential for one of the blinds maybe coming along. But it's really meh.

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