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Old 10-24-2007, 11:07 PM
leatherass leatherass is offline
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Default Re: 10\\20 against 20 Buck Spin

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Eh, I can see how people actually want to valueraise this against said player if he gets it in with anything and you actually might lose value on certain cards on turn, but saying that and at the same time saying "I'd rather fold than call flop" is ridiculous. If flop is to be true and he has a huge range AND fires turns RELENTLESSLY with said range, there is not a chance in a million years that folding is better than calling. Instead, you can can call and call allin on ANY non-spade turn quite simply.

So while I don't disagree with valueraise at all, I am vehemently against the idea of FOLDING or even being worried about turn like leatherass suggested, yes you will be bluffed on spades 1 time out of 10 or whatever, but if he's such a spewer you rate do very well a good part of the other 9.

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I think my final answer was clearly a shove. I didn't put much thought into my I'd rather fold statement so disregard that. Plus the turn gets ugly a little more than 1 time in 9. Not sure what kind of monkey math you have going there.
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