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Old 10-24-2007, 04:36 AM
ImNotSoGood ImNotSoGood is offline
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Default Re: 77 Early with 13 BBs in the Super Tuesday

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I think a fold is usually correct here, but I'd shove under these conditions:

1. Your table is very tight.

2. You have a nitty image and your table is not too stationy.


3. The blinds are expected to raise by the time you are the button or earlier than that. With 2.3k, once the blinds raise to 100/20 20, your FE goes down a ton.

If these are not true, I think it's an easy fold. Especially so because the three guys immediately to your left have resteal capable stacks, and would probably not call you too lightly since losing the ability to resteal in this stage of an MTT is highly -EV.

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I agree it's a fold, but I really don't think these make much of a difference. I mean, unless you're sirwatts or someone, no one is folding 88+ to a shove. Maybe they fold a couple extra flipping hands, but that really doesn't make much of a difference. If anything, being at a stationy table that thinks you're aggressive makes this push better/good.

Steve

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I misconstrued what I meant to say in #2, didn't mean to say that they're "not stationy", which would obv be good. I meant to say that they adjust calling ranges according to Hero's tightness.

To make the shove profitable, the calling ranges would have to be unreasonably tight. I did a few calculations and a shove here is -EV against most reasonable calling ranges, and it takes a very tight calling(or very loose calling range obv) range to make the shove +EV.

1 and 2 do matter though, the tighter Hero's table is the better the push becomes, and the tighter Hero's Image is at a table with observant players, the tighter the table's calling range gets.
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