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btw, because i am not mature enough for SMP,

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I'm willing to stipulate Jesus just because I am too tired for the discussion that follows whenever Jesus is mentioned.

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I love an atheist with a sense of humor. NH.

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Well, what I meant was I didn't want this thread to turn into a debate about the historicity of Jesus. We've done that before, and it seemed like a major hijack. If we don't grant his historicity he cant be part of the list. Santa Claus doesnt make it even though he is wildly influential. In reality I think it is totally unfair to include Jesus in this list because there is absolutely no reason to think that the Jesus on the Roman ledger is the same as the Jesus in the Bible, but whatever.

EDIT: Ugh Milo already claimed Santa Claus. Ok then I say the bogeyman.

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I took your post as just busting stones and took it as tongue in cheek. I wasn’t being sarcastic.

So, you think His quotes (all, some or none) in the Bible are not legitimate quotes, regardless of their interpretations? Don’t want to hi-jack. A simple yes or no will do.