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Old 10-23-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: value betting rivers

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I'd bet more on the turn.

If he's got a jack he's calling 130-140 often and if he's on the spade/straight draw that still gives him about 3/1 implied odds to draw.

With that in mind I think you can still get value from a jack, perhaps just put a teaser of $100 out, he'll struggle not to call that if he's holding a jack.

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I agree with a larger turn bet, and river you can probably make a smallish value bet. I haven't finished reading PNLHE so I don't understand the commitment, but why do you have to call a c/r? If villain is passive and won't try to put a move on you (most players around here are not going to try to bluff you here, although they will c/r their flush), you can make a small value bet. To me, a small value bet means like 70-90 here.

Such a small bet will look like the nuts to some players, because that's how they bet their full house/nut flush. A J will probably call the 70/90 and you don't lose so much if he c/r you.

Disclaimer: I am a total NL retard, I'm just starting out in $200 games.
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