[luegofuego]

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I think you made a comment about playing mid pp's vs. habitual floaters where you suggested not cbetting vs a habitual floater. A hand from the other day at .5/1:

Habitual floatrer limps utg, all folds to me in bb with 88, i raise it to 5 and utg calls

flop Ks4c7s

how do you proceed? Are you check folding, check calling or leading two streets? I led two streets only to see an A hit on the river and said to myself, wow this hand is a [censored] mess.

Also i've realized that I'm not taking the most optimal lines against these guys that love to float. If you lead the flop and check the turn they usually bet. I had been trying to get 3 streets of value from these guys but thought the other day that bet flop and crai turn is prob better. Do you agree vs. this opponent? If so how thin are you willing to turn crai? Top pair and good kicker work or is that too thin?

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it depends. i mean if he will call that flop with just one nekkid overcard or something as ridic as JT, u gotta fire again cause 88 is just way ahead of his range. if he is like REFUSING to fold to ANY flop bet, id go for value with that 88 too. prob bet flop bet turn, checkfold river.

the best lines are just bet/bet/bet most of the time vs these people. checkraising might have its spots sometimes but the overwhelming majority of the time u should just keep firing until theyre broke. depends a lot on stack sizes too obviously - doesnt look like stacks are good for it in your example. if they have 50bbs behind, then u should be more inclined to c/rai...