[TxRedMan]

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So what we're saying here is that we're going to allow this angle

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Where is the angle?


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the angle would be if someone intends to bet $800 but only grabs $400 in chips, and as they are cutting, they realize they don't have enough, and announce verbally "800". it's maybe an angleshoot if the opponent doesn't let them get to the verbal declaration, by saying "call" pre-emptively.

i think you go by whatever is in the rulebook on this one. but of course casinos are such great places, there is no universal rulebook, just a sheet of poker room guidelines that half the floor probably hasn't read in years.

i don't mind allowing this "angle" because the bettor can prevent it by grabbing the correct amount of chips.

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you cant allow player 2 to influence player 1's bet by forcing player 1 to only bet what was in his hand. player 1 is allowed to verbally declare his bet in the same motion, thus if the floor rules that player 2 would only have to pay player 1 the $400 he had in his hand, then there's an angle that would be shot 1000x/day, announcing 'call' before a guy had made a verbal declaration and only has a certain amount of chips in his hand that now cant be declared to be a larger amount since his opponent has acted out of turn.


i suppose what i thought was interesting about this situation is that it both seemed to be by the book and extremely harsh. if nothing else though, if you're playing in big no limit games all the time like players 1 and 2, you should know this rule. player 1 knew it, player 2 didn't.


-Tex