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Old 10-22-2007, 08:36 AM
JammyDodga JammyDodga is offline
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Default Re: QQ from upfront early in Warmup...Is this ok?

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balto,
the time to worry about the issues you bring up is before you put the first chip in the pot. So, in this hand for example, when you raise QQ to 600 you need to consider the possibility that you will be putting in more chips than just the 600 and its implications for playing the hand. After you have put the 600 in, and the action comes back to you facing a reraise, you need to consider your immediate odds, which is the amount of money in the pot now vs how much you now have to put in. Part of that consideration of course is how likely you will be to lose chips after the flop (negative implied odds), and how likely it is you will make additional money (implied odds). You are right in that many players make mistakes BEFORE they put the first chip in the pot because they dont consider how many more chips will continue to go as action progresses. That does not change the fact that at the current decision points you cant use the money you've already put in to calculate your odds because you dont get that money back. In this example right now you have to put 1200 more and see a flop (with no risk of putting anything more in the pot before the flop), or fold and put in zero more.

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Baltostar,

Did you actually read this post by MLG? It explains thoroughly why your line is wrong. Just wanted to highlight it again in case you missed it.

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Baltostar. Can you please respond to this argument. (By respond I dont mean just repeat what you've already said)
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