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Old 10-21-2007, 07:55 PM
tarheeljks tarheeljks is offline
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Default Re: Visible Aces vs. any two cards

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yeah, but couldn't the player w/AA negate this by always pushing pf? (in a nl game)

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Yes, I said that at the start. In no-limit, AA wins. In standard limit, AA wins. Only in a structure that allowed large river bets, relative to the blind, pre-flop, flop and turn bets, do the random cards have chance.

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That's not necessarily true. Look at the toy game in MOP 19.3. Only the clairvoyant is dealt a card. Standard deck. Ace or king, Clare(clairvoyant) wins, else the defender wins. Clare is dealt 2/13(or ~ 15.385%) winners. Both players ante 5 units. Three streets of pot size bets(my own restriction).

Since the defender cannot profit by betting, only Clare may bet each street. Defender may call or fold. Clare is the favorite in this toy game, even though she is dealt only 15.385% winners.

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my bad aaron, missed that part

@jog: why are you assuming that AA will not call down?
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