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hahahahha........forum, make a choice I guess, its me or packard, who do you want to stay and give advice?

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Well if you want to comment and act like you are certian about products that you have never used, why would anyone listen to you?

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because I know more about working out, weightlifting, supplements, and diet than just about anyone on this board, and most of the other boards out there.