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Old 10-20-2007, 08:03 AM
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Default Re: PLO8 tourney 3 handed decision

I did fold. I didn't see where I could win any part of the hand, and because it was possible for the big stack to scoop which would have ensured me of 2nd. I think that I made the correct decision.

But instead the shorter stack scooped, and I was left with 3 BBs. And I would have had half.

*** TURN *** [8d 7h Qh] [As]

*** RIVER *** [8d 7h Qh As] [5s]

V1 shows a straight, Eight high, for high and shows 7,6,5,4,A, for low

V2 shows two pair, Aces and Fives, for high

V1 wins the high pot (133,462) with a straight, Eight high

V1 wins the low pot (133,462) with 7,6,5,4,A

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 266,924 | Rake 0

Board: [8d 7h Qh As 5s]

Seat 2: (big blind) showed [Ah Th 9c 5d] and lost with HI: two pair, Aces and Fives

Seat 3: Hero (button) folded on the Flop

Seat 5: (small blind) showed [7s 6c Ac 4h] and won (266,924) with HI: a straight, Eight high; LO: 7,6,5,4,A


I ran the numbers.


Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 666 enumerated boards containing 8d Qh 7h
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
Tc 7c 4c 3d 9 45 594 27 65 301 0 0.099
9c 5d Ah Th 167 432 230 4 61 305 0 0.479
7s Ac 6c 4h 129 162 481 23 350 126 0 0.422

If I shove, I am putting in 33k and am 10% to win 300k. So I guess it's an easy solution -- and a dumb question brought about by hindsight: If I call, I win the low and I'm in pretty good shape.

There is almost zero rationale for calling when you consider the pay ladder, but I couldn't stand the idea of having to continue with 33k.

So: Is it really better to continue with that short stack, or do you push with the opportunity to stack up? My gut reaction is that you fold because there's a chance you'll move up to 2nd right here, but I'd like to hear why I might be wrong.
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