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Old 10-19-2007, 03:49 PM
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Default Re: STTF SNG->cash thread

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($256.85)
Hero ($226.45)
MP ($256.20)
CO ($292.70)
Button ($148.50)
SB ($239.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $8, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, Button calls $18, BB folds.

Turn: ($61) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $38</font>, Button folds.

this is more of a general theory question.

in hands where we have solid holdings on the flop, and the turn completes a draw, what do you guys thing villain is calling the turn with ?

here is what i came up with:

sometimes they call with the nuts (slowplay)
sometimes they called the flop with a weakish hand they're not calling two barrels with, but might be calling a river bet if we check the turn
example:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($311.35)
Hero ($529.10)
SB ($217.15)
BB ($200)
UTG ($258)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $8</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $6.

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $13</font>, BB calls $13.

Turn: ($43) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($43) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $21</font>, BB calls $21.

Final Pot: $85

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
BB has 6c 6h (two pair, sixes and twos).
Hero has Qs Td (two pair, queens and twos).
Outcome: Hero wins $85. </font>

sometimes they raise our 2nd barrel on a very scary board, which although our hand has improved, we can't really continue
sometimes (best case scenario) they call 3 streets with their KJ/KT hand (referring to hand above)

so i guess bet/fold the turn for value/protection is the best play
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