Re: Discussing athiesm today, how do I address this?
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if we say that God has always existed, why not save a step and conclude that the universe has always existed?"
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I doubt Sagan ever read Poe's poem Eureka. Look at the night sky and its obvious the universe must have had a beginning. If it didn't you would not see individual stars. An atheist, who considers him or herself to be intelligent, should never make the argument "Well then couldn't the universe have always existed."
Stu
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I think I can hear Hubble rolling around in his grave
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