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Old 10-19-2007, 07:45 AM
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Default Re: Would you fold here?

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What's wrong with an early position player betting and then bloating the pot with probably the best hand? Why are you ignoring the possibility that someone has a hand that will bet if checked to but only call a bet?

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I think that an early position player has a hand that he would bet, but not raise with, about as often as this flop gets checked through, or in other words, practically never. If you're talking about a late position player, then sure that's going to happen sometimes...but likely just as often the bet will come from someone earlier in the order, and be accompanied by one or more calls.

As far as our holding being probably the best hand, this is admittedly an extreme scenario, but...

13,163,470 games 16.516 secs 797,013 games/sec

Board: 9h 5c Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.889% 33.36% 00.54% 4390960 71276.00 { Js5h }
Hand 1: 06.474% 05.93% 00.54% 781147 71277.00 { KdJh }
Hand 2: 36.818% 36.83% 00.00% 4848137 0.00 { Ac3c }
Hand 3: 17.566% 17.57% 00.00% 2313109 0.00 { QsTd }
Hand 4: 05.253% 05.25% 00.00% 691731 0.00 { 2c2s }

...we end up bloating the pot for someone else's equity edge. The pot is already big enough to be looking for ways to increase your chances of winning it; except for situations like I mentioned above, betting out does a much better job of achieving that.
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