Re: The flop I am looking for is....
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Both are fine. First one you can double barrel big, second bet the flop and take it down, check turn, etc.
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You're bluffing in the 2nd hand just as in the first hand, but at least in the 1st hand you have 8 outs to improve to the nuts.
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fonkey i know you've never played live so trust me when i say, when you hold QT and bet a Q - medium - rag board at a live game, it is anything but a bluff.
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