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yeah fold seems clear... am i wrong in thinking my bet can be a value bet?

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A value bet requires you to have a reasonable expectation that he'll call with a worse hand. If you were holding AQ you might value bet hoping to get a call from QJ, maybe QT(but it's a bit thin since KQ, your other value caller, just had his ride come in). With Q4 though...most players without top pair are folding. Most players with top pair are calling and taking your money. Monsters or TPTK are raising. You can only really fold out Q5-Q7 about. And those are unlikely hands.

Betting here is a textbook example of making a bet that folds out hands worse than yours and gets called by hands better than yours.

The only case in which this is a value bet is one where you have a specific read that the villain will call you with 2P or something.

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ahh thank you