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Hi Olrik -[ QUOTE ]
so basicly you are saying that against tight and _thinking_ villians this hand might be worth a raise, in any other case muck it.

[/ QUOTE ]I would not describe the villains you might raise as "tight and _thinking_ villians."

Tight villains are probably not playing very many hands without aces. You don't need to raise to get rid of them if they don't have a hand with an ace. And they're simply calling the raise if they do have an ace plus three other decent cards. In other words, the raise is wasted on them.

I take "thinking" to mean intelligent, sharp, and aware. If that is what you mean, thinking villains, tight or otherwise, will tend to not leap to conclusions, will not tend to be gullible. By "gullible," I mean easily deceived.

Ideally you want to use the play against someone who will leap to the conclusion that you have a pair of aces plus two other decent cards, a very solid starting hand with a pair of aces.

So ideally, you want the players who have not yet acted to be a mixture of tight villains and gullible villains. And you prefer the blinds to be villains who do not always defend.

You don't want to raise with this hand and then have more than one villain call the raise! You don't want even one villain to call the raise, unless it's a big blind poster who will check/fold if he/she misses the flop.

And sometimes you will have such a mixture of opponents following you.

Poker, even Omaha-8, is a game of deception. You choose your spots for this deception carefully. Everything has to fall into place - the right cards, the right collection of opponents, the right position, the right table image. And then when opportunity presents itself, you make a move.

AAAT will be suited three times out of four. Even if suited, AAAT is a relatively weak starting hand. No responsible adviser would recommend that you play such a hand from MP3, and yet if an opportunity presents itself, seize it.

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