[chezlaw]

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living through WW1/2 etc was a disaster for huge numbers of people - THEIR would did fall into the gutter. A few generations later it makes not a jot of difference.


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The past makes more than a jot of difference on the present. The colonization and arbitrary border drawing done by European powers, for example, continues to cause a ton of problems. Iraq and Israel/Palestine are the ones most currently relevant.

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Yeah current calamaties still make a difference and some current calamaties are in part a consequence of past calamaties but the example was illustrative and these wars are still comparatively recent.

Hows the black death affecting you, the last ice age?

Current calamaties fairly soon become footnotes in history, what do you think the expected effect of WW2 is in people living in the year 3000, what about the year 20,000?

Eventually even last nights glory in Paris will be just a footnote. I know its hard to believe but it will.

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Possibly more than irrelevnt in that the future generations tend to do rather well from disasters in the past.


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In some cases, such as developing disease immunities, but certainly not in all cases.

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Not talking about all cases, talking about expectations. huge benefits from disasters like wars are technical innovations.

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First, how are those suffering during the crisis and the aftermath not "future generations"? You are equating "future generations" with "all future generations". Saying someone cares about future generations does not mean their given specific concerns must be relevant for those in the year 5000. This is a nitpick, but it seems to render the argument between you two somewhat irrelevant.


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the argument is irrelevent because he didn't get the point I was making and confused future generations to the calamity with people involved with it.

I think he also mistakenly thought I was criticising someone he generally supports or arguing against the evidence for climate change.


chez