[Niediam]

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hands that they 3bet with preflop.

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it's my experiencet that pretty often TAGs and LAGs and anyone else trying to play well tend to overplay on the button in these games.

if your range is including pp's as low as 77 or 88, and overcards as weak as ATs and AJo(and maybe worse) i think he shows up with a wider range than alot of people are giving credit for.

if he was 3betting from EP like UTG+2 or from the blinds i think we could narrow his range to TT+, AK. when he's on the button i'm widening his range to something like 99+, AJs+, AQo+ and i would probably throw KQs in.

it's conceivable he shows up with some random crap as low as 77 or as weak as JTs/KJs, etc. i wouldn't count on it(but it happens on occasion).

assuming this is true, that makes us close to a 64/36 fave and that means we need more bets to go in postflop.

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I definately agree with the concept. However, I have not seem much isolation 3betting myself until the original raiser is opening in late-mid position. I do play most of my limit hold'em on Stars and I don't know if there are any Full Tilt specific tendencies.

Having said that villian in this hand had JTo. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]