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Old 10-13-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: 25NL a couple hands with draws

hand1, you aren't folding, so really the question is, is shoving +EV, with $18 in the middle, you almost certainly have an overlay on a shove

though I think you are up against an ace here a fair bit, and getting 5/1 immediate might make calling more +EV

second one is standard

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I would just call and take check-fold line unless the turn is Q or spade.

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c/f a turn K sounds really really bad
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