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The old way was fine. It was never debated. I bet they just go back to the way it was.

[/ QUOTE ]Yep. It's only an issue because coming from the sideline. Just go back to old way. Makes no difference. If you can't communicate to players to call timeout for you, you suck.

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I don't see how having a player do it is any diff? So a player stands right next tio the ref and does the same thing... same results.

What's next? Linebackers not allowed to move up to the line of scrimmage to fake blitz? "I'm sorry, you can not do that because we feel it gets into the QBs head to much"..LOL

BTW, the whole icing the kicker thing is WAY over-rated. These guys are pros, making them wait another 20 seconds is typically not going to do anything. To the people who REALLY think these guys are mentally/emotionally fragile..LMAO!

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This is so wrong its scary. Put yourself in the position of a kicker and think about what is in your line of site. You can see the defense in front of you. If a a defensive player leaves his position and starts signaling to the ref for a timeout, you are going to see it. When a coach is on the sideline standing next to a ref and signaling the timeout, this is completely out of your vision. Unless the defense wants to actually keep a player close to the sideline for the purpose of calling a timeout you cannot see, they could not accomplish the same thing as a coach. As I expressed earlier in this thread in a post that seemed to go unnoticed, my entire problem with this current practice is that the coaches aren't just stopping the play before it happens, they are INTENTIONALLY causing the play to happen twice by calling TO when they know the ref won't be able to stop the play from actually happening.