[Sherman]

For anyone who thinks that shoving #1 is easier than shoving #2 or that they are both equal, you are wrong. Here is why in no particular order:


#1 is a 22r, #2 is an $11r

In #1 we have way more information that says we are behind. Think about what your opponent has seen. He saw an UTG raise and decided he wanted to make a big re-raise anyway.

In #2 our villian simply raised UTG. This can be a wide range of hands, much wider than in #1.

In #1, pot odds are more in our favor as the pot is larger.

In #2, villain made an extra large PF raise. This often indicates a hand that doesn't want to see a flop. AKA, Not KK or AA.

So yeah. Folding #1 is way more reasonable than folding #2. Although shoving may be correct in both.