[Gib]

This reminds me of another post earlier in the week, ur position is pretty horrible here esp with 5 more to act. Also u have to discount the 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] cause it's likely that someone could be on a fd therefore u can only rly count 2 outs for ur 8's.

We're gunna be up against so many hands that can out draw us as well as being in a horrible rio spot (ie A9/K9/Q9/J9/T9, the last 2 not being as bad but still got us beat!)

So long way round it's an easy fold.