[Nielsio]

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On a side note, I love how the people advocating eliminating the government in the name of "freedom" seem to conveniently ignore that without even a facade of representative democracy, corporations would control their lives even more than they do now

I don't read the poli forum anymore so I have to mock ACists in ATF

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The state actually represents the furthest possible example of representation, where your choice is lumped in with hundreds of millions of others, and the ruling class is a tightnit self-serving interest group; where under a market system, people can make actual contracts with their own personal arbiter and end it when they feel wronged.


You know about the 'civil' war right? Where the states said 'the federal state is violating our contract (the consitution), so we opt out'. Then the federal state declares war and effectively tells them that there is no contract, only power. Seems a pretty good example of having no representation possibilities.