[DeathDonkey]

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You guys are crazy, this is a turn fold to his bet out I think and its gotta be close to a fold to his flop CR. If he is a competent LAG TAG 2+2er he isn't checkraising this flop with one pair, once you call his big flop CR he isn't expecting you to fold the turn.

-DeathDonkey

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DD,

So you don't think hes check raising the flop here with a draw ever?

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I definitely think he could be, but I also definitely think when you call his flop raise he has to be some kind of stupid to make that big bet on the turn with stacks the way they are. He has to put you on at least top pair and top pair generally goes broke there.

-DeathDonkey