[chucky]

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fold pre flop

as played, i dont see how you have any choice but to call.

you allowed villan to take control of hand without really knowing the strength of his hand.

villan has no choice either but to push because you didnt give him any information of the strength of your hand. as a matter of fact, you showed him weakness on the turn and he can now be betting with a better hand or draw.

its 50/50 with you getting odds on the river for a coinflip that you created. you have no information other than the villan took over on the turn. the only thing he can have is nut straight or 2 pair or busted draws.

call.......you left yourself no choice.

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Good god man. who folds KKss preflop?