[jeffnc]

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Overall, my sense of NLHE (again this is from a limited sample) is that you either Flop a set or a straight or you're done either by folding or going turtle by c/c if the action is not strong. I'm not discounting flushes, I've seen more people get stacked by overplaying overpair and TP and losing to sets and str8s than to higher flushes.

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Your observations aren't consistent. If you've seen people get stacked by overplaying overpair and TP, then why wouldn't they get stacked just as easily if they lost to a bigger pair? To put it another way, you can still stack the guy with JJ overpair or TPTK with AQ on Qxx board, if you have KK, right?