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Old 10-02-2007, 12:15 AM
existential_dred existential_dred is offline
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Default Re: I really, really want to fold on the turn

does villian have any reason to believe he can scare you into folding top pair or are you fairly certain he is out in front? if you are beat, why try to bet out presumable flush draws for the villian's benefit? at the point in question, its 14.5 big bets to MP and HJ if you raise, so they are more than justified in calling 2 big bets anyway even if they aren't loose. if villian is bluffing, my guess is he is on a flush draw himself and trying to buy the pot. there is no reason to fold here unless you think villian is incapable of bluffing...

if you still want to fold it helps if you can definitely put him on a set. (you said he called two pre-flop raises too liberally...would he do anything irrational like cold call 1.5 small bets with suited K8 or K6 or K3?)

even then...you are not drawing dead against a set (other than KK)as Scarmiglio keeps pointing out. You are at worse, a 22:1 dog if villian has either a set or K8. if villian has any other two pair you have at least four clean outs making the call an easier one.

-dred
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