[psandman]

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You know why you can't make somebody count down their entire stack for you? Because if you could, somebody would make this request every hand, and we'd get out about five hands per hour.

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This is silly. The idea that allowing a player to request a countdown of a stack requires that you allow the abuse of the rule just is not logical. A player who is constantly asking for exact stack counts as can be dealt with.

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I don't know where anybody got the idea that they are "entitled" to an exact count of an opponent's stack.

[/ QUOTE ] from the simple fact that unlike a limit game an opponents stack size represents the effective limit, or the effective amount oif jeopardy that a player is facing and it just plain makes sense for a player to be entitled to this information (even you agree a player is entitled to know this information as evidenced by your insistence that chips be neatly stacked and visible, if you felt this information should be secret you would allow the chips to be hidden)

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Player A would certainly make Player B count down every penny

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This is a good reason not to allow loose coins to play. all coins should be in rolls. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]