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Old 09-30-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 14 outs on the turn, raise?

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K's over 8 beats K's over 6's. A6.

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lol?

With four players still in, it's almost certain that someone has trips, therefore Hero has eight outs for the flush, not nine. (If someone has trips, say A6, then he either has the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in his hand, or the A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] boats him up.) If someone else is likely to have a better flush draw, then obviously those outs need to be discounted further.

The eights are good unless someone has specifically KK or K8.

The sevens and kings are never outs in this pot, given the number of opponents and the action.

Therefore, Hero has a maximum of 10 outs. If we want to take a conservative line and discount the flush by half on account of the paired board and our weakish draw, then Hero has 6 outs.
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