Re: This forum needs a makeover
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you guys sure do have a hell of a lot of criteria for trying to organize no posts.
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If you post random links in OOT, they will move/lock your thread. If you post LL HE in PLO, similarly, then they'll ban you. There is actually far *less* criteria here, we're just trying to get organized rather than have 9 Dallas v Chicago threads. Perhaps you think 9 threads on each game would be better, I d/k.
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The problem with this forum are the posters. Sports bettors don't want to share info, and people come to this forum expecting info to be shared.
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MT2R, YTF, Yao, Perf, and a dozen others I can name off the top of my head share quality info on almost a daily basis.
However, I agree that many successful bettors, like some poker players, don't share their innermost secrets and tricks. Barry Greenstein posts here, but not about his poker strategy.
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Person lists (poker hand) without explanation of said picks.
Regular posters A, B, and C berate said person for no (analysis), or simply discredit said (poker hand) with no actual backup info.
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Yes, the poker forums operate similarly. There is no 'backup info' for telling a guy he played a hand wrong, it's almost by definition someone else's opinion. These threads exist on every poker sub-forum here. I've read 'NEVER, EVER SLOWPLAY' literally 10,000x in the NL forums. That's bad advice for some hands, and certainly no 'backup info' provided.
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Next script is... advice given is then replied to with advising not to make picks you don't bet on, etc.
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Yes, because that's why we have the sporting events forum. If I went to the poker boards and started posting random hands, how I would play them, how my non-existent opponents reacted, and how much $$$ I would have theoretically won, I think a permaban would follow very quickly. Or play-money hands [which people have posted and gotten flamed/banned for]. Call me crazy.
Just like poker, you have to sit down, think about what you're doing, and actually risk money at some point.
If people want to post their donk 12-team parlays, Perf created a chatter thread for that purpose. Just like we have an Arb thread for people who want to post arbs. Hard to imagine that's 'too much organization.'
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The bottom line is, you aren't going to get any new posters in this forum
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I bet we are. There's been plenty of new people I've seen this month, some of whom already ask good questions or posted facts/updates on a game I didn't yet know - injuries, odds changes, DrBob's picks, whatever.
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when the reality is, without becoming a professional sports bettor, any sucker willing to try to differentiate between actual picks and questionable picks and put money on it deserves to lose
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This is kinda the opposite of what you said earlier. No one wakes up one day and says, "Hey, I've never done this b4, but i'm turning pro as a sports bettor/'capper!"
Over time, one learns how to find solid value, how to line shop [#1 skill], how to read the public's view, how to make money props/futures [Bodog helps!], adjusting for new info/line moves, using the Pinny side to find soft books/lines, perhaps specific ideas like fading DrBob line moves or Wong Teasers, etc.
I knew Stanford Wong from counting cards in casinos, not from SB. I learned the math behind Wong Teasers here.
You don't like the forum and that's fine. You didn't add much this month that I saw, either. [and I sincerely apologize in advance if you did add a lot in the UFC threads, but it seems you spend most of your time in BBV4Lyfe.]
But to complain the forum stinks, and then to complain many of us want to improve it by trying new things is simply ridiculous.
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