[PokerBob]

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if we want to SD, fine, but imo if we do indeed c/r the turn and call down a 3bet, we don't ever win.

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This is just really way way wrong man. He could do this with AT some of the time, QJ, KJ, maybe J8, as well as a monster spew with some nonsense. You'd be surprised the kind of nonsense you get shown in these situations. You are good WAY often enough to call the river in this situation.

You seem to give people too much credit in general PBob. Like you posted a hand back where someone donked and Ace turn on a dry board and you raised figuring he'd fold top pair. Just not gonna happen man. Yes, maybe he 'should' fold the Ace cos you'd never try to bluff him off an ace or whatever kind of logic he has, but fact is he just ain't folding it. Similarly here, maybe he shouldn't be 3 betting the turn then betting the river with a worse hand, but he will. So call.

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OK.