[Oink]

[ QUOTE ]
There is little value in trying to steal, since they never fold.

[/ QUOTE ]

This is not true. Even loose passive fish will fold their SB to a steal quite a lot. A lot of 50/5 guys will fold their SB around 30-40%

I still think its a raise because you want folding equity - even if its slim and because you want SB out if possible.

But the points you make are valid.