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Old 09-25-2007, 08:14 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Middle pairs vs. tight players.

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You can the raise the flop for a FSD if you're planning to check the river.

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I don't call that a FSD-raise but OK. I don't really see the point in doing that in this hand? It will very often be an expensive-SD move since we can get reraised on both flop and river.

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You cant get raised on the river. The line is

raise flop
bet turn
check river

You use your position to get a cheaper SD compared to

call flop
call turn
call river


However, as you say. It sucks when he 3-bets flop or c/r turn. Unless you can fold in those spots you shouldnt use the line.

It also sucks when you are up against a predictable TAGs where you can

call flop
call turn
fold river if he bets
bet or check river if he checks.

9 out of 10 TAGs in my games are never betting a worse hand on the river when I call flop and turn. So I have a pretty easy fold if they 3-barrel.

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sorry ment that that play can get raised on flop or turn. A FSD-raise on turn can just get raised on turn...
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