[RustyBrooks]

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Folding 3rd is normal sorry

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Do you mean not stealing there (I would) or folding to the raise (that seems close to me)?

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Folding to the raise is super standard.

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In villains spot I raise most live 3 card eights or better, like I'd like an 853 here. I really think that's the worst you'll see from a *good* player and you're a 2:1 dog but you're getting (immediate) odds of 4:1 to call the raise.

I might tend to fold because this is going to be a difficult hand to play from 4th on. But an argument could be made to call and re-evaluate 4th.