DaveR - thanks, good stuff, will def check out your recs. I really don't mind paying a lot for dress shoes, feel like with proper care you get alot of value out of them.
I haven't bought Cole Haans in a while - I bought a pair a while ago (they're pretty much dead now) I liked because they have a Nike air sole, so it was really comfortable. It was a nice black casual, could be dressed up shoe. I just looked at their Fall collection for dress shoes, agreed, not that hot, imo.
Ikaika - yeah I just looked at the new fall launch for Allen Edmonds. Very good looking. What do you guys think of the "Manhattan"?
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-Al